Forget the Tug of War! All Electric Trucks Have This Achilles Heel Including the Tesla Cybertruck!

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  • Published: 28 November 2019
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Comments • 6 799

  • SquishBangBlow
    SquishBangBlow  1 weeks back

    *The Ike Gauntlet and off-road segments were great!*

    • MikeInABQ
      MikeInABQ  21 hours back

      @Roger Wilco For sure, starting out with well less than a full charge created avoidable problems that skewed the entire experience.

    • Donald Adiska
      Donald Adiska  22 hours back

      @JR B New super capacitor and other battery types can be recharged in 10 minutes as well, they just haven't been gotten into production models yet: https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/282364-bmw-porsche-demo-super-fast-electric-car-charger

    • Dirty Harry
      Dirty Harry  1 days back

      @Bruce Baxter .....bs wrong, been to florida 6 times, 918miles one way, 14.5 hours three people and even with only two. Pee, gas and food breaks and the best part, we did not search for a charging station.

    • ShelbyvsViper
      ShelbyvsViper  1 days back

      Joe Grant You must be from California, Out of that state you tow the speed limit. In Texas we can tow at 80mph. Nice 400 mile stretch between El Paso & San Antonio. Hopefully you don’t run out of electricity out there = you are out of luck.

    • ShelbyvsViper
      ShelbyvsViper  1 days back

      Bruce Baxter your math is waaaaay off. I can tell you have never drove cross country.

  • James Perez P
    James Perez P  3 minutes back

    they were wrong to use street tires instead of asphalt-free tires

    • Rogue4Buttons
      Rogue4Buttons  8 minutes back

      Yeah I think the issue is not really the vehicle. But the ridicules distances you have to travel in the united states. I mean. The longest distance possible to drive in my country(Netherlands) is like 350-380 kilometers. And charge stations are literately everywhere. And even in Germany/France it's special to drive those kind of ranges.

      • Frank Flores
        Frank Flores  38 minutes back

        How many years did it take to get the gas powered automobile and it's infrastructure to where it is today? How many years did it take to get from a copper and zinc battery to a lithium ion battery? The simple fact that you can pull a trailer with a battery is simply amazing. The only lesson to be learned here is patience.

        • 74rocktiger74
          74rocktiger74  43 minutes back

          For anyone interested in the math engineering explained also tackled this subject.

          https://youtu.be/S4W-P5aCWJs

          • cloudnhj
            cloudnhj  1 hours back

            Moral of this story? DON'T USE A CAR TO TOW A 4,000+LB TRAILER AND DON'T OFFROAD A CAR. These guys are trying to say not to get this truck while comparing it to a car that was never designed to tow heavy trailers long distance. While I do think the cybertruck is a dumb idea, what the model X was able to do in those videos is actually very impressive. Able to pull a 4k trailer up a steep incline and keep pace with traffic is impressive by itself. I'd say redo your tests when the cybertruck is out and see what it can actually do.

            • Colin Lyon
              Colin Lyon  1 hours back

              Third issue you are probably being cooked by Electromagnetic radiation , My L300 mitsubishi vans altinator puts out 3-4 units of pollution right into the passenger's seat 0.25 is considered dangerous , so what is the reading on a Tesla ?

              • Valdarious
                Valdarious  2 hours back

                A trailer actually made from the manufacturer that has essentially the same battery capacity of the vehicle itself in the bottom of the trailer would help.

                • tom collins
                  tom collins  2 hours back

                  Ya think.

                  • tom collins
                    tom collins  2 hours back

                    Elon musk is a genius at suckering people into buying this junk. You would be better off scrapping the copper in the motors. That's the only return you will get on your investment.

                    • tom collins
                      tom collins  2 hours back

                      Bunch of junk .

                      • tom collins
                        tom collins  2 hours back

                        What if you're not towing but into a 40 mile an hour headwind. You'll never make it.

                        • tom collins
                          tom collins  2 hours back

                          Two gasoline powered vehicles to assist in getting to a super charger. Where is the efficiency in that scenario.

                          • tom collins
                            tom collins  2 hours back

                            You're learning that you got played by Elon musk

                            • tom collins
                              tom collins  2 hours back

                              You say there were two surprises ? No surprises to me. I've been saying this for years. It's all a fantasy.

                              • tom collins
                                tom collins  2 hours back

                                A real test would be towing a trailer up Wolfcreek pass in below zero temperatures. With icy roads.

                                • tom collins
                                  tom collins  2 hours back

                                  This is not news. I've known about this flaw maybe even before you were born. I just didn't have YouTube as a forum. Also people were buffaloed into believing electric cars were viable. Nobody addresses the toxic environmental impact of disposing of all these batteries. One pollution traded for another.

                                  • Valdarious
                                    Valdarious  2 hours back

                                    I don't think I would even bother looking into an electric truck until solid state batteries come down the line.

                                    • Thomas Desmond
                                      Thomas Desmond  2 hours back

                                      You are absolutely correct this is why electric trucks have a long way to go. Perhaps a fusion drive could be implemented.

                                      • The Red Lense
                                        The Red Lense  2 hours back

                                        These are trucks for the soccer moms who drive around a city and dont tow anything, dont carry anything except their kids and their friends, for regular truck users, these EVs are a gimmick.

                                        • stefanvidev
                                          stefanvidev  3 hours back

                                          A much more informative video on the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4W-P5aCWJs
                                          TLDR: The takeaway is that electric vehicles are at least 5 times as efficient as internal combustion ones. This together with instant plentiful torque makes them a much better platform for towing in the future. Not today, because energy density of batteries is poor compared to that of gasoline/diesel. Battery technology will continue to improve to the point where you will be able to fit a battery in an electric vehicle that can hold just (over) one fifth of the energy in a gas tank and have a vehicle capable of travelling the same distance while towing. Overall experience will be much better due to instant plentiful torque, silence etc etc.

                                          • December314
                                            December314  3 hours back

                                            Wow! What a revelation! Electric car designed for highway cruising is not good for off roading in the wilderness. Up to this moment I was planning a three months trip in the Himalayas towing 5 Ton trailer. Turns out that is impossible. Thank you geniuses for stating the obvious. So instead of Tesla X now I am considering to use my Rolls Royce or my Porsche Boxter for towing. Would you advice me if the is a good idea or not. Somehow I can't figure this out on my own.

                                            • Paul McGill
                                              Paul McGill  3 hours back

                                              I don't care. I'm sick of all the pollution from fuel emmissions.

                                              • Graham Thwaite
                                                Graham Thwaite  3 hours back

                                                Hydrogen! Just replace gas with none CO2 generating hydrogen. Batteries just don't work. Elon is just a showman out to sell a lot of batteries.

                                                • Chris Kosti
                                                  Chris Kosti  3 hours back

                                                  electric cars are the biggest rubbish of this century. They are NOT clean. The CO2-Footprint of the Powerplants are terrible, so the battery charging and driving are more dirty, as driving a old and ineffective combustionengined car. Shit on the electric cars. That is NOT the future.

                                                  • TechGuyJohn
                                                    TechGuyJohn  3 hours back

                                                    Proving EV truck is a mess using EV car.

                                                    • phildev
                                                      phildev  3 hours back

                                                      your points are valid, but needless to say that this is not the intended purpous for those vehicles.. same goes for the cybertruck.. these vehicles are merely having the appearance of a certain car category in order for some people who would not utilize the potential of said category anyhow, to be able to choose an all electric version.

                                                      How many people buy a truck and actually use it more like a normal car on a day to day basis?! I am guessing a lot. For people who use their trucks as intended work horses there is absolutely nothing wrong with buying and using such a big vehicle. But for all these "live style" pickup truck drivers out there who are just guzzling away without rhyme or reason, the cybertruck could actually be an alternative way since it should be more ecofriendly while having the appearance. at least this is my understanding for these types of vehicles.

                                                      • Jeff Keith
                                                        Jeff Keith  4 hours back

                                                        I bet a lot of Cybertruck orders get cancelled once people start watching these vids

                                                        • flitsies
                                                          flitsies  5 hours back

                                                          Sounds like when you want to charge you pull into a charge station to find 50 different chargers with only one of which might suit your vehicle, but what if you have charge type 51 then you can't charge.

                                                          There needs to be a standard for charging so they can put in a charger that works for all vehicles.

                                                          As for the problem of off road use take a small generator for those times when you might get stuck somewhere, that way you can still get some charge for you car in an emergency.

                                                          • Rooster Forge
                                                            Rooster Forge  6 hours back

                                                            I'm waiting for a manufacturer to put a diesel electric set up similar to what powers trains.

                                                            • Nicholas Juntilla
                                                              Nicholas Juntilla  6 hours back

                                                              These guys offroading while trying not to touch the bottom of the carriage are infuriating. Of course you have to touch! It's not gonna hurt the car to scrap the bottom frame a bit geeeez

                                                              • Nicholas Juntilla
                                                                Nicholas Juntilla  6 hours back

                                                                Too bad battery swapping isn't a thing.

                                                                • Tadhg O Brien Tour Guide

                                                                  New diesels emit almost no Nox, they are 3 times as efficient as they were in the 1990s, the CO2 emissions are reduced on maintenance, paint, transmission improvements are big fuel savers & oil changes are only once a year? Electric is only needed in large cities to improve static air quality. We don't need to replace diesel & especially not gas.

                                                                  • Kasper Dilmaghani
                                                                    Kasper Dilmaghani  6 hours back

                                                                    I have a way to solve this

                                                                    • Stuart Collett
                                                                      Stuart Collett  6 hours back

                                                                      Hot weather. Water crossings. Vulnerability of the low slung batteries to bellying the car on a massive rock??

                                                                      • Kofi Gyimah Amoako-Gyimah

                                                                        RV’s should have batteries that can act as extensions for battery life. RV’s can house solar panels for recharge or a generator. You have to be CREATIVE!

                                                                        • TheBsavage
                                                                          TheBsavage  7 hours back

                                                                          No "electric truck manufacturers?" You mean all one of them? Tesla. Everybody is aware of this limitation. Duh. Hit the pedal on an electric car & your range drops. SAME IS TRUE ON A TRUCK & a heavy load would necessitate more throttle, hence less range. NEXT!

                                                                          • thadrunkinninja
                                                                            thadrunkinninja  7 hours back

                                                                            How about solar panels in the back

                                                                            • Real Patriot
                                                                              Real Patriot  7 hours back

                                                                              Screw electric vehicles of any kind! I will take a V-8 and some flowmasters! Thank You!

                                                                              • ByPolerBear
                                                                                ByPolerBear  7 hours back

                                                                                These are all interesting tests, but would be nice to have a control gas powered vehicle beside them doing the same tests. You don't really give context for comparison of range loss

                                                                                • Video Pipeline
                                                                                  Video Pipeline  7 hours back

                                                                                  @8:31 "Now when we usually do this, and we're doing like heavy duty trucks, they cannot maintain the speed limit"
                                                                                  That's certainly not the case with a 4,500lb. trailer. A 4,500 lb. trailer is less than the weight of Tesla Model X you were using to pull it.
                                                                                  Comparing to an HD pickup that's towing its maximum rated trailer weight isn't apples-to-apples either, because it would be pulling more than twice its own weight.

                                                                                  • aaron urban
                                                                                    aaron urban  7 hours back

                                                                                    1:16 Where is this place ? :O :O :O

                                                                                    • Dennis Jones
                                                                                      Dennis Jones  8 hours back

                                                                                      I have a 10 year old ford f150 2wd and a winch that would of made short work of that "drive way" It has a no frills v6 that will tow just fine with fair mileage and any mechanical probs can be address in almost every town in the USA and Canada. Did I mention I only spent 13k on it and the insurance is dirt cheap? I'm not buying a truck where I risk fire and explosion going up granma's driveway and have to drag a generator with me. SUGGESTION: air suspension to raise it for real ground clearance and an Aux Power Unit to charge the batteries just in case of range miscalculations.

                                                                                      • Wayne Aiello
                                                                                        Wayne Aiello  8 hours back

                                                                                        Just add batteries to the trailer for added range and power assist.

                                                                                        • Henry Xavier
                                                                                          Henry Xavier  8 hours back

                                                                                          I don’t see any of these on the freeways if I do not for very long.....ITS A NEWEST GIMMICK.....

                                                                                          • DJ Miell
                                                                                            DJ Miell  8 hours back

                                                                                            The recent breakthrough in solid state batteries will give future elec cars 2-5 times the battery capacity. In 10 years electric vehicles are going to be on a crazy level.

                                                                                            • Andrew Arnold
                                                                                              Andrew Arnold  9 hours back

                                                                                              The Franklin 4wd can be charged in the woods, it comes with a kite and key .

                                                                                              • Steven Salinas
                                                                                                Steven Salinas  9 hours back

                                                                                                Before you start towing that big boat to the lake dont forget to stop by Wal-Mart and get you a pack of batteries🔋🔋🐇🐰